Robb Bell Bullhorn response

Have you ever listened to Robb Bell's bullhorn response? Here's an interesting game if you're up for it - let's compare his response to Todd Friel's response. By watching these two videos you can get a good understanding between their views on evangelism, the emergent (postmodern-influenced) Christian vs a Christian who takes the Bible as the literal, absolute truth of God. Bell holds that God is love and you'll get there when it works out but don't sweat it (Jesus is a big love teddy bear) and Way of the Master teaches that your next breath is not guaranteed so don't delay in seeking out Jesus. Interesting.

Robb Bell's Bullhorn response:


Todd Friel of Way of the Master radio's response.


Bullwhip guy: (from PerishNot Ministries) Using film footage of Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple (Mark 11:15-17) as a fake Robb Bell gives his view that event.


Many churches are moving towards Bell's style of preaching. What is your church preaching? Are they ignoring difficult sections of the Bible and never mention sin or hell? If so, are you being fed?

When I came to Christ, I realized fairly quickly that many, many of my friends and family weren't saved and therefore going to hell. In 2002 I started attending a church that really wasn't into evangelism other than inviting friends to church or doing nice things for people. And what I am about to say may be a little controversial but from my experience as a believer (although not a long, long time believer but I've spent many hours watching for this), that the casual encounters with unbelievers unless really touched by God will not bring people to Christ through being nice. And if an emergent is honest, they build everything on being nice to people and doing things for people rather than sharing the gospel with people or telling them what the Bible says on different subjects. In my experience I have not seen anyone come to Christ just because I was nice to them at the grocery store (ie a random encounter with a person you meet once or twice). They don't ask what I have that was different from everyone else. Now I do believe that people you work with or see often can see the love of Christ in you in a way that can point them to Christ.

Now I want to point out that Way of Master does not endorse people who are meanspirited when preaching the gospel. That's not in love. (1 Corinthians 13:2) But to have the attitude that it's a bad thing and doing more harm than good to share the gospel to someone you meet on the street is so against what Jesus and his disciples did it's almost laughable to contend that in our modern times sharing the gospel with a stranger doesn't work anymore. What was one of the first things Jesus ever preached? In Matthew 4:17 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."

I would love to challenge the emergent Christian who is reading this and not really liking what he's reading to ask him or herself are you more influenced by the Bible or by a humanistic belief that you can make the world better? And if you disagree this might be a problem, I challenge you again to dig into your Bible and ask God to reveal what he wants of your life instead of letting the Bell's and McLaren's of the world do your interpretation for you. Several years ago I know that I had to do this when I stopped reading many of the popular Christian books because I had to admit I was reading them more than the Bible!

Remember: 1 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,"

MEGACHURCHES!!!

I won't make the claim that all big, big churches are bad but what percentage would you say that are bad? Pretty high if we're comparing them to churches that are biblically rooted. In my opinion the postmodern mindset of many big, big church leaders is that church growth is more important that staying biblically sound. The message have been softened not to offend, quotes from the bible lessened to keep people awake and more giant screen TV previews of contemporary movies for the newbies to relate to. And really all they are saying with these actions is the Word of God is not good enough for people today so we have to jazz it up, add to it. The farther we move from the Word of God and dumb down the message the more we embrace weak teaching.

Below is a video I found that asks the modern church goer to ponder what we consider church to be today. How did Paul ever manage without giant TV screens and million dollar sound systems?



You may ask why this concerns me? In the last days before Jesus returns people will move away from sound teaching and embrace that which tickles the ear. And when I read the two sections of scripture below, they tend to cause me some concern over what I see happening in the evangelical church world today. I don't know when the end times will begin but I know we are called to watch and be prepared (Mark 13:33). Poor teaching in our churches, no matter what the size, will make the job of the antichrist and his minions that much easier when he herds uneducated Christians into a one world religious system.

1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

2 Timothy 4:2-5
2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.



Mark 13:33 "Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come."

Forwarded emails - call for discernment

I believe we could use a little discernment in the emails we forward. A good place to reference those with outrageous claims is www.snopes.com to verify if they are true. And if it's one of those emails that claims if you pass this along to ten people and you'll get a pot of gold or whatever- PLEASE DELETE THOSE!

Below is from an email I sent out in reference to RE: TEXAS COACH SPEAKS OUT.

I found a blog where this guy researched the RE: TEXAS COACH SPEAKS OUT email and it's partially true (see snopes) website. They say that abc claims it was an overzealous programmer that answered the coach's email so the email isn't abc's official position. But the reality is that even though abc came up with an email apologizing for this email response, many writers in Hollywood and most of the people who run the media are very pro-homosexual agenda.

The blog I got this info from the writer lives in the town of Childress and couldn't find a coach named Jim Neugent. He makes some good points about emails like this - it's worth reading this.
http://www.treymorgan.net/2007/03/jim-neugent-coach-from-childress-abc.html

Back in March I wrote an article about how today's writers in TV and movies tend to twist right and wrong in their story lines. There is so much in TV and movies we should really avoid these days. Esp if we have kiddos.
http://stpreach.blogspot.com/2008/03/moral-relativity-on-your-television-set.html

Rapture ready?

I'm not going to even touch the timing of the rapture (post or pre-trib). Instead I'm going to ask you a potentially tough question, are you ready for the rapture? If it happened tonight, would you be ready?

At the building I work in they recently forced the smokers away from the entrance of the building, farther off. Because of this, the smokers have discovered nature in the trees and small fountains away the building. Yesterday, I was told by one of the smokers that there was several cute baby ducks swimming in the small fountain near the new smoking area. Because of this I brought my camera to take pictures today. But when I asked a smoker if she had seen the baby ducks, she said they were not there. And she said the mother duck seemed to be waddling about searching for her little ones.

I realized that this situation is a powerful analogy on how unbelieving or backsliding parents will feel when their children are raptured and they are not. How people who's dear friends are raptured and they are not will find themselves.

Today I watched an interested video by Monica Dennington of Tic Toc Ministries who biblically defends the view that Christ wanted us to be focused on being ready for his return rather than focusing or arguing on the actual time of his return.



All of us are going to die at some point. We have no clue when our number's up. Here's a clip from a film called "Drifting" featuring Brett Bower as the bad guy. In this clip a pastor and his wife pick up a hitchhiker who pulls a gun on them and challenges the pastor as to whether he's ready to meet his maker or not. Very powerful.



This is an interesting video that you either rejoice at the end or get really mad. If this made you mad, please think about what Paul said in 2 Corinthians 13:5-6 "5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test? 6 And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test."



God bless,
Steve

LONG HOT SUMMER

One of my friends made the most profound statement when he described adult life by stating how we used to look forward to summer as kids but as adults it's basically just a beating that you endure till September. I'm not very good at planning vacations so I've never built those in to help with the long hot summer in north Texas. As a byproduct of the heat, I usually feel tired and not at all inspired when it comes to writing my blogs. During these times I've tried to dig in the Word of God.

My friend, Bill, likes to work with wood. He made little wooden crosses for all the guys in our men's group and told us we could pick a verse from the Bible that he would burn into the crosses. I picked the end of 2 Corinthians 12:10 - "For when I am weak then I am strong."

When in doubt, turn to the Word of God.

Prophecy

Prophecy (def) n 1: knowledge of the future (usually said to be obtained from a divine source) 2: a prediction uttered under divine inspiration

John Nieder discusses the signs of the times through the lens of Bible prophecy in the clips below:

PORN

Is porn bad for a Christian?

For the Christian that thinks the porn industry isn't so bad, I would refer them to Shelley Lubben's website. Shelley's an ex-porn star, ex-prostitude who came to Christ and now has a ministry to help educate people about what it is like to live/work in the world of pornography. She reveals that drugs/alcohol/sexual diseases run rampant and although they make good money they tend to blow whatever they make. The damage to these people's lives is devastating and some take their own lives after only a short career. After listening to her story, it's hard to claim no one's getting hurt by watching pornography. And whether we want to admit it or not, if we watch these movies we are watching someone's daughter/son in a legalized form of prostitution.

Having said all of that let me say that I’ve struggled with pornography most of my life. The Internet has made it a whole lot easier to get it as opposed to not just 10 years ago you had to drive some place or mail order.

As a believer in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17 – “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!”), we are called to not be of the world (see Galatians 5:16-26) and if we slip or fall into lust we must repent and turn from it. And not make the excuse that everyone does it...

Shelley recommends digging into the Bible for help. Her favorite Bible verse is 2 Corinthians 10:5 “We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.”

Another ministry that helps with porn addiction is
Pure Life Ministries.

I am currently using a porn filter (X3Pro) from XXXChurch which emails the websites that you visit to up to three accountability partners every week.

Evil Chuck of Death, a Christian or just spiritual?

Was Evil Chuck of the death metal band Death, a Christian or just spiritual at the time of his death in 2001? He had battled cancer for over two years and possibly this challenged what he believed. As I tried to find an answer to this question, I was amazed at the death metal fans who considered him a traitor or worse because he might had been a Christian. Statements from his mother simply stated that he had always been very spiritual never stating him as a follower of Christ. I searched the Internet high and low and couldn't find anything on him making a declaration of faith in Christ.

I have a friend who was on tour with Chuck in the 80s and many of the stories weren't very flattering. He would take the shirts bands would give him and put them on the steps of their tour bus to step on them. He wasn't very positive towards fans that came up to meet him either. He sounded like a pretty complicated guy. He might have been different in the 90s and I admit I never met him. I did see him play at Joe's Garage in the late 80s and I was amazed to see a blue-eyed baby-faced Chuck spout out such deep, guttural death groans.

Recently, as I was listening to the second song on Spiritual Healing, "Altering the Future," the question of the late great Chuck's beliefs came up. "Altering the Future" appears to describe abortion as murder that calls for the death of women who have had an abortion. I didn't hold antiabortion views at this time in the 80s. I believed in the horrible lie of abortion until 2002 when I became a believer. And, obviously, I don't believe that women who have abortions should be killed, they have a chance to repent of this sin and some truly have repented after having one. So all of this got me to thinking as to whether he had come to Christ or not. Chuck probably knew that there was a good chance he was going to die during his struggle with cancer.

In the Christian world we see a lot of people who claim to be spiritual but there's a big difference between being spiritual and knowing and trusting in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. The Bible states that there is one way to Heaven and that is through the blood of Jesus Christ. The world will tell you different and if you listen to some of Chuck's former fans Christianity is bad and has harmed society. But that's a subject for another blog.... I just hope Chuck decided to trust in Jesus before he died from brain cancer in 2001.

Altering The Future (lyrics)

Creating a life only to destroy
Saved from a life of the unemployed
Where crime is the only way to survive
Which is the best to be dead or alive?
Maybe a chance but maybe not
Born to be thrown in the trash to rot
To exist in this world may be a mistake
The one who is with child, it's their choice to make

Death and life taken so easily
Right or wrong, whose choice will it be?

Abortion, when it is needed
Execution, for those who deserve it
The giving and taking of life will always be
Altering the future

Look into the future to prepare us for our fate
Controlling our existence with every life we take

Life for a life should remain the rule
The innocent victim that is what's cruel
Look to the past is what we should do
When justice was done and justice was true
Using our laws to help their escape
An easy way out is what they create
Claiming insane is the way to freedom
People are stupid enough to believe them

Death and life taken so easily
Right or wrong, whose choice will it be?

Abortion, when it is needed
Execution, for those who deserve it
The giving and taking of life will always be

BONO

I have to admit I'm really sick of hearing U2 music in churches.

Why do Christians glorify Bono? Before I came to Christ in 2002, I was a fan of U2 and have seen them twice in concert during the 90s. And from knowing their lyrics and even how they portrayed themselves in concert, there wasn't much Christian about them that I ever witnessed.

This video takes a hard look at U2's lyrics and the songs they choose to cover. This is a must see for anyone who thinks "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" is a Christian song or is glorying Christ:








Matthew 7:15-16
15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

What is the Emergent Church?

I have mentioned the term "Emergent Church" to several Christian friends and they are not familiar with term so I thought it's important to define it. Quite a few churches now are experimenting with some of the practices of the emergent church movement which at first come across as good ideas but can be very deceptive. You often hear people like Rick Warren say they want to change the way we "do" church. This is a good warning sign that you're about to hear some Emergent teaching mixed in with good teaching. The more liberal teachings of the emergent church I find are more deceptive, dangerous than a Marilyn Manson or Slayer because you know where they're coming from.

Definition: (from Encyclopedia) : "a label that has been used to refer to a particular subset of Christians who are rethinking Christianity against the backdrop of Postmodernism....

VOTM radio Todd Friel interviews John MacArthur about Brian McLaren's social gospel, one of the leaders of the emergent movement. MacArthur points out how the more liberal emergents believe that Jesus came to fix the world (Liberation Theology), and how they want to move away from teaching of sin. As Todd Friel has paraphrased them, "We can spend all our time making the world a better place so they can go to hell from." And another disturbing aspect to some emergents is that they do not accept the Bible as absolutely true. This is a must listen!

Recently I read an article on the web by Brian McLaren where he basically doesn't answer question posed to him on his church's stance on homosexuality and then tries to make the reader feel guilty for even wanting to know his answer. This guy is slick. When he later reveals that the couple who asked the question has a parent who is now gay and they want to know if the father and his partner can come to a wedding if they hold it there, it's almost like he's triumphant at this point attempting to make us feel guilty. You can't even tell if he answered their question from this article. He seems to imply people might come to Christ if we're wishy-washy tolerant.

Taken from that article:
"Perhaps we need a five-year moratorium on making pronouncements. In the meantime, we'll practice prayerful Christian dialogue, listening respectfully, disagreeing agreeably."

The last thing we ought to do according to this emergent guru is go to the Bible and actually see what God says. Now if McLaren went to the Bible he'd most probably pull out something like "The Message" so he can manipulate the meaning into the nothingness he's shooting for.

This is very similar to Joel Osteen - they doesn't wan to offend people. Jesus never offended anyone, did he? They put him on the cross because he tickled their ears? But they think things are different now in this crazy modern world? Their view is that we need to modify how we teach Christianity to be effective.

This is the kind of mindset many leaders of the mega-churches want to embrace as they throw old seeker sensitive methods on the dung hill and look for the next big thing. Six Flags over Jesus hasn't worked well for them. Now they turn to affirming, non threatening, kind and never state anything definite on the big questions just like a big teddy bear.

I was in a grocery store the other day and I witnessed an older white gentleman get mad at the cashier and manager because something wasn't working the way he wanted it. He stormed out and those minimum wage workers just shook their heads. And I thought you know that's bad when a Christian acts like that in public (I'm not saying this guy was or wasn't). But what I believe the emergents have allowed themselves to be formed by our postmodern society into thinking is that they don't want to be like the rude Christian in public when asked hard questions the Bible is straightforward in answering. I have no clue how it helps people to hear a sugar coated the message of the gospel, it certainly doesn't challenge them to repent, turn from their sins. And the tough questions can be answered in love without malice but there will be times that people hearing those answers will not be happy with the answer. Now McLaren in this article goes one step further by not even answering the question and then wants you to believe he's brilliant with his zen-like tolerance. Oprah would be clapping, "You, go girl!"

Here's an interesting quote from Mark Driscoll, founder of Mars Hill Church in Seattle.
"In the mid-1990s I was part of what is now known as the Emerging Church and spent some time traveling the country to speak on the emerging church in the emerging culture on a team put together by Leadership Network called the Young Leader Network. But, I eventually had to distance myself from the Emergent stream of the network because friends like Brian McLaren and Doug Pagitt began pushing a theological agenda that greatly troubled me. Examples include referring to God as a chick, questioning God's sovereignty over and knowledge of the future, denial of the substitutionary atonement at the cross, a low view of Scripture, and denial of hell which is one hell of a mistake." – Mark Driscoll

Mark Driscoll discusses the emerging church.